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Basic Bible Doctrine / The water quality is not the measuring stick!
« Last post by Bro. Steve Winter on January 22, 2017, 03:46:46 PM »
The water quality is not the measuring stick!
Sharing from http://biblefolk.com/forum/topic/water-quality-is-not-measuring-stick

There are many Oneness Pentecostal preachers today acting in open rebellion to the Word of God regarding many things including the rank sin of women speaking out during Church services.  The Bible could not be much clearer about that.

I Corinthians 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
35 And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church...
37 If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord.

I Timothy 2:11 Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. 
12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. 
13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve. 
14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.

Now how knowing those verses are in the Bible, can anyone calling himself a man of God brazenly and in blatant defiance to the Word of God have women leading worship services or calling on women to speak out during worship services?

Well, traditions even rebellious sinful traditions can be a powerful thing.  Look at how so many otherwise holy preachers brazenly wallow with the world in every heathen holiday.

Maybe it is because they feel and see the Spirit of God moving in such services?  We need to remember that when Moses rebelled against God and struck the rock that water still flowed to quench the thirst of God's people. There was nothing wrong with the water!

Numbers 20:7 And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, 
8 Take the rod, and gather thou the assembly together, thou, and Aaron thy brother, and speak ye unto the rock before their eyes; and it shall give forth his water, and thou shalt bring forth to them water out of the rock: so thou shalt give the congregation and their beasts drink... 
11 And Moses lifted up his hand, and with his rod he smote the rock twice: and the water came out abundantly, and the congregation drank, and their beasts also. 
12 ķAnd the Lord spake unto Moses and Aaron, Because ye believed me not, to sanctify me in the eyes of the children of Israel, therefore ye shall not bring this congregation into the land which I have given them.

Note that God commanded Moses to speak to the rock but Moses DEFIED the Word of God and smote the rock.  Even though the man of God blatantly DEFIED the Word of God, the water still flowed.  The Bible NEVER says that anything was wrong with the water.

If all anyone did was measure the water quality then the rank sin and rebellion of that man of God would never have come to light.
If all anyone measures is whether God pours out His Spirit or how they happen to feel then the modern sin and rebellion of many pastors will never come to light.

There was one real Oneness Church (UPC affiliated) where people received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost during a time it was later discovered that the pastor had been committing adultery with more than one married sister in the Church.  That did NOT justify his sin and rebellion!!!

Don't just judge the water quality when God declares something to be sin like women speaking out in Church.

Bro. Steve Winter DD
http://biblefolk.com/forum/4
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Basic Monotheism 101 / Re: Are you really Jesus Only?
« Last post by Bro. Steve Winter on October 18, 2016, 04:08:48 PM »
Hi I am new here and I just was thrown off by your profile picture. I just wanted to know is this for Pentecostals only or there are all denominations up here just to keep for future references when replying back to someones comments.

Apostolic Pentecostals are the only real Christians but there are different people here.  Honest questions are welcome but doctrines of devils are not.

Bro. Winter
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Basic Monotheism 101 / Re: Are you really Jesus Only?
« Last post by radams10 on October 18, 2016, 03:56:26 PM »
Hi I am new here and I just was thrown off by your profile picture. I just wanted to know is this for Pentecostals only or there are all denominations up here just to keep for future references when replying back to someones comments.
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Basic Monotheism 101 / Re: Are you really Jesus Only?
« Last post by JCisthe1 on May 02, 2016, 08:31:50 PM »
The bible is certainly Jesus only.

I like this one:-
Rev 21:22  And I saw no temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the temple of it. The "and"s are not the definitive conjunction and the verb "are" is an incorrect translation because in the greek, it is singular. So a better translation is, "........for The Lord God Almighty, even The Lamb, is the temple of it."

The next verse I love because it gives the essence of God(does not require a body to exist) in Christ(Christ being the humanity):-
Rev 21:23  And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.
"Lighten", is emitting light, but the "light" is actually lamp. So a better translation of that is:- "...........for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the lamp thereof."

If only trinitarians could believe that God Almighty does not require a body to exist. If all creation disappeared, He would still be there, alone, and that He manifests Himself in His creation to show Himself to His creation. He seeks relationship in spirit and truth.
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Luke 17:28  Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;   29  But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.   30  Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.
What part about Sodom and Gomorrah do they not understand?
Sharing from http://biblefolk.com/forum/topic/what-part-about-sodom-and-gomorrah-do-they-not-understand-22

It is notable how many of trinity cults have made headlines for their sub-canine morals.  Did you know that the early polytheists embraced Sodomy?

See http://www.prime.org/Sewers.html

What part about Sodom and Gomorrah do they not understand?

Gen 19:24 Then the Lord rained upon Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven;

Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.

Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely
be put to death; their blood [shall be] upon them.

Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which
is against nature:

Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men
working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

I Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

I wonder if I've been "exhaustive" enough here with this brief Bible study. It does seem from these verses that God does have feelings concerning certain matters....

I hope this helps...

Bro. Steve Winter
For Bible doctrine http://biblefolk.com/forum/4
For Christian music http://www.winterband.com
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Basic Monotheism 101 / False religions do produce amazing results!
« Last post by Bro. Steve Winter on May 16, 2015, 09:34:07 PM »
False religions do produce amazing results!
Sharing from
http://biblefolk.com/forum/topic/false-religions-do-produce-amazing-results

I know of no false religion that does not produce dramatic lifestyle improvements among its faithful followers.  Just consider the austerity and self discipline among so many in the eastern religions.  Or consider the vain faith of the islamic that leads them to murder and suicide.

The same is true of false-christianity.  What a tragic thing indeed to read of false-christians dying for their faith.

One of the most difficult of souls to convince to become a real Christian by obeying Acts 2:38 is one who has been pronounced saved by some false preacher because of some vain claim of belief AND who has reformed their lifestyle.

In my support of conservative politics I occasionally encounter some very nice false preachers who are quite correct in their politics but zealous in their blind service to the devil as they deceive souls into hell.  Most of their boasting has to do with how their converts have reformed their lives.

Of course reforming one's life is a great thing and does produce results.  If a person quits drinking then they will have no more hangovers or DWIs and that is good, but it is not Biblical salvation.

The only way for a person to become a Christian is by obeying Acts 2:38.  All other roads lead to hell.  If a person does not obey Acts 2:38 then it will not matter how they lived or how many of the other Bible verses they obey.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.

What awaits those who do not obey the Acts 2:38 salvation regardless of what their false preacher promised them and supported with misunderstood, out of context, scripture twisting?

II Thessalonians 1:And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels, 
8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ: 
9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;

When we consider the implications of things like "flaming fire" and "everlasting destruction" even the slower among us should see that the false preacher is not your friend as he explains away the parts of the Bible that teach obedience.

Where would we be if some false preacher had been around to convince Noah that he really didn't need to build a boat since he was being saved by grace?

Don't be deceived!

Bro. Steve Winter DD
http://www.christjesus.mobi  http://biblefolk.com/forum/4

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Current Events / Facebook censorship and harassment
« Last post by Bro. Steve Winter on January 21, 2015, 08:46:54 PM »
Please cut and paste the following to Facebook groups and pages as I have been blocked from posting for 30 days.

Bro. Steve Winter has again been censored and blocked from posting to Facebook by Facebook on behalf of some false-christians.
Please see and share http://www.facebookcensorship.com far and wide, on and off of Facebook. 
You can also find his publishing at http://biblefolk.com/forum/4
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Basic Bible Doctrine / Re: The Godly Beard
« Last post by brosrichard on December 15, 2014, 08:43:26 PM »
Quote from site "I have removed it out of respect.  Having gone down the metaphorical rabbit hole of actually researching my book, finding few willing to examine scripture in real detail, and also finding that my own pastor who was steering me away from the topic was actually behaving in such a manner that resulted in his expulsion from the UPCI, I began questioning far more.

My book is still for sale on Cafepress, because I spent a significant portion of my life writing it. However, as I am no longer Apostolic, I removed the free version. I advise you to not read it. Once you start questioning anything, you will questioning everything. And you may not like what you learn.

Out of respect for all of you, I do not tell you what to think about your own religion, of which I am no longer a part of. I only post this one thread, and will not post again on this forum, again out of respect.

Listen to your leaders, if you wish to avoid conundrums. Such is the path of contentment. Peace and blessings to all of you.

Sincerely,
Reverend DeWayne Lehman
Seax-Wica High Pries"
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Basic Bible Doctrine / Re: The Godly Beard
« Last post by Bro. Steve Winter on December 15, 2014, 08:08:35 PM »
found the answer http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=24490&page=2 he took the book down out of respect for leaving the truth and is now a seax wica high priest according to his post on page 2. Sad to see people fall away but what a fall this is to become involved with wick. On another note thanks for the video on beards you got on youtube and the free book you had up on amazon. i have started growing a beard even know my UPCI church does not think highly of them

The accursed reprobate spiritual filth running the apostolicfriendsforum has banned me from the site for teaching truth so I could not read your link.

Bro. Winter
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Basic Bible Doctrine / Re: The Godly Beard
« Last post by brosrichard on December 15, 2014, 07:53:33 PM »
found the answer http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=24490&page=2 he took the book down out of respect for leaving the truth and is now a seax wica high priest according to his post on page 2. Sad to see people fall away but what a fall this is to become involved with wick. On another note thanks for the video on beards you got on youtube and the free book you had up on amazon. i have started growing a beard even know my UPCI church does not think highly of them
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