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Arnold Venter is an heretic and a deceiver he is NOT a Brother
« on: September 09, 2009, 08:07:28 AM »
Arnold Venter is the servant of the devil who played a major role in deceiving a former admin here into backsliding right into the devil's waiting arms.

It did not take me long to spot Arnold Venter as an heretic.  He is right about one thing, there will be no Rapture for him and anyone he can deceive along with him.

Arnold Venter is a scripture twisting devil who is in with the heretic Reckhart.

The garbage they teach is also called preterism

Arnold Venter is a liar when he states that anyone who preaches the pre-trib Rapture is a trinitarian.

If you are really Oneness Christian then Arnold Venter is not your Brother.

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Re: Arnold Venter is an heretic and a deceiver he is NOT a Brother
« Reply #1 on: September 09, 2009, 09:09:51 AM »
This reprobate devil Arnold Venter is actually calling me a trinitarian on some public forums.  I trust that anyone worth convincing will see Arnold Venter for the lying devil that he is.

We don't need to bother debating and addressing every point with every heretic that crawls out of the woodwork and I often choose to simply not answer fools according to their folly.

Join with me in prayer that the Lord would swiftly reward Arnold Venter according to his works and also require of him Brian's blood which is on his hands.

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Re: Arnold Venter is an heretic and a deceiver he is NOT a Brother
« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2009, 09:12:07 AM »
This is a post from another board quoting some of what that devil Arnold Venter is publishing:

Arnold Venter wrote:  "So I can rest knowing that you have vindicated me, and proofed that I was correct in calling you a trinitarian, or for that matter a Two God person.  You are not an Acts238 Oneness Pentecostal or Apostolic"

I trust that anyone worth convincing (and it is not difficult to research what my doctrine has been for several decades) will see clearly what a lying devil Arnold Venter is., and now also Brian White who is in fellowship with him and other devils.

I ask that any real Christians reading here join with me in obedience to Gal 1:8 regarding the lying devil Arnold Venter and pray with me that the Lord would reward this slimy, lying scum Arnold Venter according to his works lest he deceive another weak minded dimbulb like Brian White into hell with him.

Arnold Venter is clearly a scum that will publish any garbage that comes into his mind to try to throw up smoke screen and cover what a heretic he is.

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Re: Arnold Venter is an heretic and a deceiver he is NOT a Brother
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2009, 08:16:15 AM »
The devilish Arnold Venter continues to publish his lies about me including his most claim that I am antichrist because he says that I won't confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.  Below please find my most recent public reply to him on another message board.

What an ignorant bumbling reprobate scum we find in this devilish Arnold Venter and the dimbulb filth that wallow with him.

What a pathetic lying piece of trash this reprobate Venter is as he tries to throw up smoke screen to obscure the fact that he is a bumbling heretic.

Anyone who can read my website or who knows me is aware that I have been preaching that Jesus is God for many decades before this rinky dink heretic Venter showed up spewing Reckhart's foolishness and seducing the weak and unstable dimbulbs among us.

So, once again, anyone who has any doubts of what a liar Arnold Venter is can simply take a look at my website and the doctrine published there.

Let the true Christians agree with me in prayer that the Lord Jesus Christ would reward the lying devil Arnold Venter according to his works.

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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2009, 10:05:12 AM »
What I do understand in particular about Gary Reckhart and Arnold Venter is they both preach a form of Apostolic Judaism.  They teach Oneness and Jesus' Name Baptism, plus the infilling of the Holy Ghost; yet they also try to incorporate much of OT customs and practices.  My question to Venter and Reckhart is this: are we saved by the law, or by grace? 

The law never saved anyone as it was weak through the flesh.  Grace and truth came when Jesus, the One true God, came in flesh and walked amng us, condemning sin in the flesh - yet at the same time providing us with open access to Him and remission of our sins.

My question to you, Bro. Steve, is this: isn't preterism a doctrine where they claim there will be no rapture at all, if all the prophecies of Christ were fulfilled?

God bless, Bro. John Cady

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Re: Arnold Venter is an heretic and a deceiver he is NOT a Brother
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2009, 10:17:42 AM »

My question to you, Bro. Steve, is this: isn't preterism a doctrine where they claim there will be no rapture at all, if all the prophecies of Christ were fulfilled?

God bless, Bro. John Cady

Venter and Reckhart teach so much bumbling garbage it is hard to know where to begin.  I know for a fact that Arnold Venter is a liar just from some of the stupid lies that he has  posted about me.  Brian White(AKA Christian Contender and former admin here) became a brazen liar after he got in with Venter though I believe he had been lying to me here and there even before that.

I have seen Venter claiming to be a Jew and this following scripture comes to mind:

Rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
 
I don't generally do in depth study of every rinky dink heresy that pops up but I believe that you are correct about that particular preterist error.  It is sad when some otherwise decent young Brethern see that preterism is a heresy but buy into other similar heretical garbage like the "post trib rapture" or women preachers and/or other doctrines of devils.

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Re: Arnold Venter is an heretic and a deceiver he is NOT a Brother
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2009, 09:06:38 AM »
I know that many are being taught by devils like Arnold Venter and other deceivers a false doctrine of the Church going through the wrath of God.  That is not consistent with the days of Noah or Lot.  Noah did not get soaked and Lot did not get toasted.  Deceivers like Arnold Venter prey upon the weak in the faith who are not well grounded in the scripture.  Just by knowing a few basic truths you will be able to spot heretics like Venter and his ilk.

The "day of the Lord" should NEVER be confused with the rapture of the Church. To do so is a very serious and grievous error.  The rapture of the church is something for the Christian to look forward to, but the "day of the Lord" is another matter.

Amos 5:18   Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.

The "day of the Lord" is a terrible judgment that will come AFTER the rapture of the true Church.

Isa 2:12   For the day of the LORD of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:

Isa 13:6   Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
Isa 13:7   Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:
Isa 13:8   And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.
Isa 13:9   Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
Isa 13:10   For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light: the sun shall be darkened in his going forth, and the moon shall not cause her light to shine.
Isa 13:11   And I will punish the world for their evil, and the wicked for their iniquity; and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease, and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible.

Jer 46:10   For this is the day of the Lord GOD of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord GOD of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates.

Ezek 13:5   Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the LORD.

Ezek 30:3   For the day is near, even the day of the LORD is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.

Joel 1:15   Alas for the day! for the day of the LORD is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.

Joel 2:1   Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the LORD cometh, for it is nigh at hand;

Joel 2:11   And the LORD shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the LORD is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?

Joel 2:31   The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.

Joel 3:14   Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the LORD is near in the valley of decision.

Amos 5:18   Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.
Amos 5:19   As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into  the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.
Amos 5:20   Shall not the day of the LORD be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

How could these verses above be referring to the coming of the Lord to be united with His true Church?  No brightness in it!

Yet the coming of the Lord for the Church will be a glorious moment for the real Christian (and interesting "news" for the denominations to read about).

1 Th 4:15   For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1 Th 4:16   For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
1 Th 4:17   Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
1 Th 4:18   Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

Notice the contrast between the rapture that the saint is to look forward to, and be comforted by, and the "day of the Lord".

Amos 5:18   Woe unto you that desire the day of the LORD! to what end is it for you? the day of the LORD is darkness, and not light.

See?  The "rapture" and the "Day of the Lord" are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT EVENTS.

Heresy is right up there with witchcraft.  Don't let some devil like Arnold Venter deceive you into an eternity with him in the lake of fire.  He is NOT a Brother to any real Christian.

Bro Steve Winter
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